This is a great topic.
Too many men screw up with women because they ask the wrong person for advice!
It is very important to ask for advice from the right people, lest they steer you in the wrong direction.
Let’s get into it, shall we?
The Fisherman Knows, Not the Fish
Do you think fish have any idea how fishing works?
They simply get taken up by the nets, or are lured by the hook of the fisherman.
They have no idea the mechanics behind the fishing trawler or the fishing rod.
Would it be wise to ask the fish how they’re caught?
They would tell you that getting fished “just happens”.
Or they might tell you that when the right fisherman comes along in the right place, fish get magically pulled into his boat.
Listening to that advice might imply that no effort at all is required in order to fish.
Asking the fisherman may yield different results.
You’ll find that he knows many things about fishing, from water currents, to where fish like to reside, to what kind of bait works for which fish and even which net is best to use.
Talking to a fisherman, you would understand the underlying mechanics behind fishing.
You’d realize that it is not only hard, but that a lot of thought and effort goes into fishing properly.
You have clearly asked the right person for advice!
The People Men Normally Ask for Advice
Men normally ask women for advice on how to seduce women.
Nothing could be more idiotic.
Every woman has a different opinion on how women are to be seduced and none of them understand how it’s really done.
At best, women will steer you in a neutral direction, at worst, they’ll steer you completely wrong.
Women give advice on how they would LIKE to be seduced.
What they would LIKE to happen is very different from what ACTUALLY happens.
As a result, many women end up telling men advice that leads them to become better beta slaves.
This of course, works in women’s favour, as a man asking for advice about how to seduce women, clearly doesn’t get it, and so does not deserve sexual access anyway.
In asking for advice from a woman, he has disqualified himself sexually from that woman and all her friends.
In effect, he has told her hypergamy everything it needs to hear (I am unworthy of sex and am a slave, please advise me on how best to serve you).
Asking women for advice will NOT help you seduce women.
It can only hurt you.
Instead, ask the fisherman.
Ask the men that are good at seducing women how it’s done.
Who Men Should Be Asking for Advice
Men should be asking seducers for advice on how women should be seduced.
They should not ask women OR beta/NPC/slave men.
Everyone in those categories has NO CLUE how it’s done.
All of their advice will therefore steer you in a terrible direction.
Unless you want to be an NPC, take ALL advice from women and NPCs on how to seduce women with A GRAIN OF SALT.
Seducers know exactly what needs to be done, and how.
They understand the current social climate and how women differ by age.
They understand exactly how you’re supposed to look, act and think in order to seduce women.
They are an AMAZING source of advice.
If you happen to have any man in your social circle who is amazing with women, you should definitely be asking him for advice on how women are to be seduced.
Anything you can glean from him will be gold!
Watch his mannerisms and how he treats the women around.
Watch how they react.
Learn and emulate.
He is an excellent fisherman!
Learn how to fish from him!
Stupid Advice, Given On Purpose
Women tend to give bad advice on purpose, in order to serve the feminine primary social order.
They only know how to give that kind of advice, as they have grown up that way.
Women give men advice on the assumption that those men are slaves.
Only when the contrary is proved do women admit to what they truly want.
If you are constantly listening to advice given to you by women about what women want, you are 100% going to have mostly beta behaviours.
As a result, you will be totally anti-seductive to the women around you.
You will then wonder what you are doing wrong to repulse the women around you!
Your problem? You’re listening to them!
You’re failing the shit test by listening and you didn’t even know it was one!
Why Stupid Advice is Given
Women do not communicate overtly, they communicate covertly.
This means that the medium is the message.
You’re sub-communicating to her by asking for her advice that you have no idea what you’re doing.
As a result, you have just signaled that you’re an NPC to her.
You then receive the culturally appropriate advice to give to an NPC (which is engineered to keep you as an NPC to continue to fuel the feminine primary social order).
When women volunteer advice to you about what women want, smile, nod, and ignore it.
She has no idea that what she’s telling you is garbage, and she will be offended if you point it out to her.
Women’s advice is for team woman and for the natural selection of the human race.
Women’s advice is not for you.
Who You Should Model Yourself On
You should try to emulate the behaviours of the men around you who can actually seduce women.
If they’re able to do it, they’re clearly doing something right.
If you see a guy, and all he’s ever had are monogamous relationships that went disastrously wrong, do you really want to model yourself after him?
If he’s a miserable beta slave in a marriage, do you really want to model yourself after him?
How about if he has multiple FWBs (friends with benefits) and he always seems happy and in control?
How about if he has multiple attractive women that seem to want to fuck him?
Of course that is the guy to emulate!
Talk to the damn guy!
Learn all you can.
He’s likely lonely, and living an existence where he has actively had to ignore the bullshit that people around have tried to feed him his whole life.
He will love to have someone to talk to who gets that the world is stupefying people on purpose!
Use the Scientific Method
Rather than immediately agree with things you’re told, be a skeptic!
Don’t trust what people tell you, verify!
Read my stuff and test it out!
If it doesn’t work, dump it.
Use what works and drop what doesn’t.
Do the same for the advice that women and your family have given you.
If it doesn’t work, don’t be angry at them, just ignore it!
It is very important to experiment, so that you can get the best results out of your life.
Just because the social convention says you should do something, doesn’t mean you should follow it to the letter!
Search Your Feelings, You Know It to Be True
On some deep level, you know it to be true that women are obviously not the best people to be asked for advice.
Obviously they don’t know how they should be seduced.
If they did, most would not end up in miserable LTRs.
Learn from the people that are actually able to get the results that you want.
Listen to the experts.
Use the scientific method and don’t trust everything you hear.
I’m sure your gut was screaming at you constantly before you found a redpill source that something was wrong in your understanding of the world.
Obviously women are not attracted to what you thought they were attracted to.
Luckily, the internet has lots of information to help you.
It was not always this way.
Conclusion
Most men fail before they even begin because they have no idea who they should be asking for advice.
They ask all the wrong people how they should go about seducing women (their friends, their family, women).
They fail to notice that the advice given by these people never works.
They are not experts in seduction, and if they were, would not be in the miserable situation they find themselves.
You need to ask the right people for advice or you will be led astray.
Ask the fisherman how fish are to be caught, and not the fish.
Good luck!
-Helios
Frequently Asked Questions
My Older Sister Keeps Telling Me That If I’m Nice to Women I Will Meet the Girl of My Dreams One Day! I Don’t Believe You Helios!
Does your sister know how to seduce women?
Why are you listening to her advice then?
She has no idea what women really want, she is just parroting what the matriarchy tells her that women should want.
Her advice will lead you down the road to slavery.
Listen at your own peril.
My Older Brother Is Happily Married and Is Having Lots of Sex With His Wife. Are You Trying to Tell Me He Did It Wrong?
When the honeymoon phase ends, your brother is going to be a sex-starved slave like all the rest of the beta NPCs.
If you do what he did, you will end up the same.
Women find men in marriage to be totally anti-seductive.
You are not the one special exception to the rule.
Women BECOME sexless in marriage.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
I Keep Trying to Be Nice To Women, and I’m Constantly Being LJBF’d. What Am I Doing Wrong?
You’re very likely behaving in ways that are anti-seductive (ie. doing what women and your beta friends are telling you will work with women).
Take advice from people that actually know how to seduce women and change your fate!
“Being nice” is doing it TOTALLY wrong.
Read all of the content on this blog and try to internalize the concepts.
You will do MUCH better afterwards.
This Is Sounding Too Much Like A Conspiracy Theory. Women Working Together to Enslave Men? Total Bullshit!
It would be if the animal kingdom didn’t work on EXACTLY the idea of natural selection.
Women create the selective pressure necessary to generate alphas.
They train all men to be slaves, and only those that break free are real men.
It is a shit test on a global scale.
Simply look for the patterns in human behaviour and you will see what I see.
Look deeper than what people, especially women, say.
Watch their actions!
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